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Spirit

So a question that is pinging around in my head is something I’ve never actually considered. This is my 2nd or 3rd time going through the Gospels via the chronological method in the Daily Bible. It is a great way to read through as it attempt to harmonize the 4 different accounts. It is also a great way to read my part of the bible as it integrates things like psalms into the chronicles, and minor prophets in with Daniel etc…

We are early on and this verse caught my attention. John 4:24

New International Version
God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

This seems like a simple enough statement, but it really is not. I have heard lots of people talk about it and interpret it. But honestly I cannot seem to yet hear something that really “clicks”.

But the first part is what is really giving me pause. God is spirit. God, meaning YHVH of course, is spirit. However the NIV translates some subsequent usages of the word spirit as the Spirit, meaning they have decided it must mean what trinitarians talk about when they say the “Holy Spirit”.

Not all translations do this so I have to assume the text underneath doesn’t communicate this.

However, the real question is (to me at this point:

If YHVH is spirit, then how is the Spirit, The Spirit, the Holy Spirit etc… something else or something different?

Talking about the Holy Spirit as an entity and an individual, or a “part of God” etc… makes no sense. If God is already spirit, then anything related to the Holy Spirit is talking about a different spirit. Buy we know God is ONE, total unity. So is the Holy Spirit (Spirit of Truth, Spirit of Grace etc..)just a piece cut off and sent on a mission? If it is a different spirit, then we are in big trouble. If it is a part of God, then God divides itself up into portions?

And then interesting questions come to mind about Yeshua’s own words that He must go to the Father so the Holy Spirit could come. Since God is spirit, it must be located in a specific location, and not able to be somewhere else? And what about in Torah and Tanakh where it talks about the Spirit of God, and how it came upon Saul, and David and others? It is drawing a clear, pre-christian, pre-trinitarian view of an active agent of God, that is also referenced as spirit.


I do not wish to denigrate God, or to be  casual. Im simply trying to grasp something I previously just swallowed and emulated and defined my experiences with. It doesnt add up. Im guessing a lot of this comes down to pre-programming and bias where we will present the scriptures and try to help the reader (by putting the and a) and capitalizing words as to direct them into a pattern of thinking.

 

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